Author Topic: Myocarditis numbers before COVID were 4 per million, post jab 25,000 per million  (Read 2166 times)

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[edit add 9-5-23] Also see: VAERS myocarditis already 47% of 2021 in just the first 2 months of 2022
https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=1366.0

Also see: Vaccine-Induced Myocarditis in Children May Have 50% Fatality Rate in Five Years
https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=1283.0 [end edit add]
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Myocarditis - Numbers post injection up to 25,000 per million, before covid were just 4 per million
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"Psychopathic Medicine" - 15% of vaxxed are damaged - How The Covid-19 Vaccines Impact The Heart
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[edit add 3-23-23] You've been lied to - again. The COVID-19 virus does not cause myocarditis.
"5. Conclusions
Our data suggest that there is no increase in the incidence of myocarditis and pericarditis in COVID-19 recovered patients compared to uninfected matched controls. Further longer-term studies will be needed to estimate the incidence of pericarditis and myocarditis in patients diagnosed with COVID-19."
https://www.mdpi.com/2077-0383/11/8/2219



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New Study Found A 9-Times Increased Rate Of Myocarditis After mRNA Booster
https://jamescintolo.substack.com/p/new-study-found-a-9-times-increased
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https://twitter.com/TracyBethHoeg/status/1614816868229091329

"Post vax myocarditis vs post-Covid myocarditis
It keeps coming up, so I'll retweet.
Myocarditis post pfizer-moderna combo was 28x more common than post covid in 16-24 yo males in this massive Nordic study published in JAMA:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2791253 "
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https://dailyclout.io/they-lied-to-us-about-myocarditis-too/

"They Lied to Us About Myocarditis, too
February 5, 2023 • by Igor Chudov
They said Covid gives kids MORE myocarditis

Science and our health authorities told us that “myocarditis is much more frequent from Covid than from vaccination.”



The thing is, it was not true.

A new study from Scandinavian countries is out:



The authors worked for health departments of the four Nordic countries. They were tasked with looking at their entire populations (and their computerized records), seeking out instances of myocarditis. They had vaccination records for all people as well.

It turned out that in their countries:

    530 people had myocarditis from the vaccine
    109 had myocarditis from Covid-19

As far as deaths go:

    27 persons died from vaccine myocarditis
    18 died from Covid-related myocarditis.

So please, tell me, how could it be true that “Covid causes more myocarditis”?

The Real Outcomes are Likely Worse

Several known facts make the picture even worse than the article presents. Numerous myocarditis cases caused by vaccines result in sudden deaths and not hospitalizations.

The University of Heidelberg study shows that 20% of sudden post-vaccination deaths that they autopsied are due to myocarditis.



Link to the above piece.

Those sudden deaths are NOT included in the numbers presented by the Scandinavian scientists.

Also, the study notes that some people had vaccines, Covid, and myocarditis in one 30-day interval. For those people, the cases were added to the vaccine or Covid counts based on what happened later (vaccine or Covid).

So, for example, a person who had a vaccine on day 1, then Covid on day 15, then myocarditis on day 20 would count as a Covid myocarditis case. I do not personally agree with such an approach.

Some of the “Covid myocarditis” cases happened in vaccinated people who happened to have Covid “despite” (or because of?) their vaccines. Those are counted as “Covid myocarditis,” even though vaccines played a role in these illnesses that happened to vaccinated persons.

Much talk was also directed at creating an impression that myocarditis happens only to young males. It helped Pfizer and Moderna make money by keeping older people less alarmed. However, Scandinavian researchers found that vaccine myocarditis also happens to older people.



Vaccines Did Not Help Prevent Covid

The most important addition (brought up thanks to Peter Kust’s comment) is that the vaccine-caused myocarditis was all for nothing. The vaccines ended up not preventing Covid-19. First, someone would get vaccinated, then vaccine myocarditis might follow, then they would have Covid, and more myocarditis could occur. That’s a bad deal!

Potential Objections and Exposure Time

Some people trying to debunk this story may ask, “what about the background rate of myocarditis”? What if the persons listed in the above study as having “vaccine myocarditis” actually had it for unrelated reasons?

It is not a bad question and needs to be explored.

My answer to those objections is that approximately the same number of people had Covid by the time the study period ended in 2022, as was the number of vaccinated people. So, the “exposures” to vaccines and Covid are roughly equal. And yet, the incidence of myocarditis after vaccines is about five times greater than after Covid.

Science Lied, People Died

Promoters of Covid vaccines always appealed to “science,” which was paid by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation or the NIH, both of which had a vested interest in pushing Covid vaccines.

However, officials unrelated to either of those proved that myocarditis from Covid is much rarer than vaccine myocarditis.

I have a science degree. In the past, I always was an admirer of science. Science was fascinating, world-changing, and deserving of my interest and trust. The Covid pandemic shattered these beliefs, and my default attitude to any science with social, climate or political implications is mistrust and skepticism.

Do you still trust science? Do you try to discern if perhaps there is something underhanded going on when certain topics are discussed?"
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Discussion of the study:
"Excellent Science Immunology study is very bad news to the mRNA/nanolipids platform!
Showing that vaccine-induced myocarditis is likely driven by the platform & not antigen specific (i.e., spike protein)!
Implying that future mRNA-based vaccines/drugs would have same risk!
Also providing another evidence of sustained heart scarring and abnormalities! Vaccine-induced myocarditis is NOT mild!" - Retsef Levi
https://twitter.com/RetsefL/status/1688886870757847040

The study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37146127/
"Cytokinopathy with aberrant cytotoxic lymphocytes and profibrotic myeloid response in SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccine-associated myocarditis


Abstract

Rare immune-mediated cardiac tissue inflammation can occur after vaccination, including after SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccines. However, the underlying immune cellular and molecular mechanisms driving this pathology remain poorly understood. Here, we investigated a cohort of patients who developed myocarditis and/or pericarditis with elevated troponin, B-type natriuretic peptide, and C-reactive protein levels as well as cardiac imaging abnormalities shortly after SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccination. Contrary to early hypotheses, patients did not demonstrate features of hypersensitivity myocarditis, nor did they have exaggerated SARS-CoV-2-specific or neutralizing antibody responses consistent with a hyperimmune humoral mechanism. We additionally found no evidence of cardiac-targeted autoantibodies. Instead, unbiased systematic immune serum profiling revealed elevations in circulating interleukins (IL-1β, IL-1RA, and IL-15), chemokines (CCL4, CXCL1, and CXCL10), and matrix metalloproteases (MMP1, MMP8, MMP9, and TIMP1). Subsequent deep immune profiling using single-cell RNA and repertoire sequencing of peripheral blood mononuclear cells during acute disease revealed expansion of activated CXCR3+ cytotoxic T cells and NK cells, both phenotypically resembling cytokine-driven killer cells. In addition, patients displayed signatures of inflammatory and profibrotic CCR2+ CD163+ monocytes, coupled with elevated serum-soluble CD163, that may be linked to the late gadolinium enhancement on cardiac MRI, which can persist for months after vaccination. Together, our results demonstrate up-regulation in inflammatory cytokines and corresponding lymphocytes with tissue-damaging capabilities, suggesting a cytokine-dependent pathology, which may further be accompanied by myeloid cell-associated cardiac fibrosis. These findings likely rule out some previously proposed mechanisms of mRNA vaccine--associated myopericarditis and point to new ones with relevance to vaccine development and clinical care."

Any time you see the term "rare" in regard to side effects of the experimental mRNA leaky "vaccines", it's important to note that less than 1% of vaccine side effects are reported through the VAERS system.
https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=716.0

And other obvious problems like Pfizer's lackeys at the FDA appealing to hide Pfizer data for 50 years:
https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=1174.0

And Big Pharma's lackeys at the CDC dragging their feet for 463 days, after the original FOIA request and through repeated lawsuits, before finally being made to release their damning v-safe data.
https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=1603.0
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Determinants of COVID-19 vaccine-induced myocarditis
https://jessicar.substack.com/p/determinants-of-covid-19-vaccine-1be




"COVID-19 mRNA Vaccines: Lessons Learned from the Registrational Trials and Global Vaccination Campaign"
https://www.cureus.com/articles/203052-covid-19-mrna-vaccines-lessons-learned-from-the-registrational-trials-and-global-vaccination-campaign#!/
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Episode 360: THE CLOT THICKENS
https://rumble.com/v4f2esn-episode-360-the-clot-thickens.html

"Largest Covid vaccine study ever finds shots are linked to small increased risk of neurological, blood and heart disorders - but they are still extremely rare
    They had doubled risk of  Guillain-Barre, 3.7 times higher risk of brain swelling
    Largest study of its kind looked for health conditions in 99 million people
    READ MORE:  Covid is FOUR TIMES more likely to cause heart problem than jab"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13100755/Largest-Covid-vaccine-study-finds-shots-linked-small-increased-risk-neurological-blood-heart-disorders-extremely-rare.html

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Irate father's kid got myocarditis from jab
https://twitter.com/i/status/1762852824205955424
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