What about possible damage done by journalists/bloggers like Leonid Schneider?

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I keep bumping into a blog by Leonid Schneider in my Internet travels who, as recently as December, continued to ignore the up to 100% success rates of front line treating physicians who use HCQ and/or ivermectin protocols in highly successful treatment of their COVID patients, ever since February/March 2020. His foolish offhand defamation of world leading virologists, epidemiologists, and at least one board certified ICU critical care specialist in pulmonology and member of the FLCCC - that have published nearly 2,000 peer reviewed papers between them - seems to know no bounds.

What if someone was so influenced by Schneider's hydroxychloroquine nay-saying in his blog, they refused treatment with HCQ and got sicker and died as a result? Would their loved ones have grounds for a suit?

In his Dec 15th blog:
https://forbetterscience.com/2020/12/15/ivermectin-now-against-covid-19-why/

He accused:  "In this regard, congratulation to the humanity for having wasted such tremendous resources during the worst pandemic in a century while trying to verify some bullshit #HCQw0rks cure made-up by a couple of incompetent crooks. The French infectious disease professor Didier Raoult must be very proud of the global damage he caused from the comfort of his own chair, in fact I should apologise to him and his IHU Marseille institute on this occasion for having wrongfully assumed French authorities together with the scientific and medical community will not tolerate his despicable trolling and fraudulent quackery during a pandemic. They did, and continue to do so. This is how f***ed-up things are, dear reader."

As Schneider accuses a highly successful treating physician from the comfort of his own chair.
Yet "Professor Didier Raoult and his team in Marseille have used hydroxychloroquine on over 4,000 patients, reporting a mortality rate of about 0.8%." (and for many of at least the earlier ones he didn't even use zinc).
https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=296.0

Along with Schneider's ridiculous nonsense as conspicuous as:

"It seems, the only people still talking about remdesivir as COVID-19 drug are those of HCQw0rks community."

Demonstrating what would seem his appalling abject ignorance to the NIH recommendations and the currently accepted U.S. "standard of care". https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=390.0

Yet from what I have read in his blog, I haven't noticed him quoting or suggesting any early treatment recommendation. Or any other kind of recommendation for the SARS-CoV-2 virus or COVID-19 disease.
He rightly rails against - what the WHO study suggests is essentially worthless - Remdesivir, yet considering his defamation of effective early treatment remedies in conjunction with negating that of Gilead's Remdesivir, at least when considered against NIH guidelines leaves a recommendation of ............. dexamethazone. Period.
https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=390.0

In other words it would seem, if you get COVID "go home and isolate" until you turn blue and have to  call an ambulance and eventually die of breathlessness in a hospital, at an average cost of $73,300.

But then perhaps I missed his treatment recommendations or those of others that he may have quoted. At the very least he provides an excellent demonstration as to what happens when a person can be so appallingly wrong, and compounds the error month after month, while becoming increasingly trapped in an intricately woven web of their own hubris, that precludes them from changing their minds no matter how much additional evidence emerges that demonstrates the foolishness of their positions.
https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?board=2.0

So judging by all his naysaying, if Mr. Schneider gets sick with the SARS-CoV-2 virus and his condition deteriorates into the COVID-19 disease, one might presume he would refuse early treatment with HCQ or ivermectin protocols while isolating at home and perhaps eventually, posthumously, qualify for a shot at the annual Darwin Awards.

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I posted:

https://forbetterscience.com/2020/12/15/ivermectin-now-against-covid-19-why/#comment-112844

February 1, 2021

Could you please post links to articles you have included on sound recommendations by yourself or others for early, or later phase, treatment for the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Here’s how mass distribution of ivermectin worked in Peru.



https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=461.0

Perhaps there are other metrics you prefer to judge by other than success.

https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=359.0
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A week later I posted:
https://forbetterscience.com/2020/12/15/ivermectin-now-against-covid-19-why/#comment-113635

 February 8, 2021

FLCCC is a group of doctors/scientists that between them have published nearly 2,000 peer reviewed papers, including Dr. Pierre Kory that you impugned earlier, who is a board-certified ICU pulmonary care specialist. Third and second world countries like Peru, are dragging so-called “developed” western countries, kicking and screaming out of this plandemic (where hospitals have assumed the role of “houses of death” as they used to call hospitals in third world countries).
https://www.covidtreatmentoptions.com/#ivermectin

Watch this before it is censored by Google/YouTube:


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On feb 13 I posted:
https://forbetterscience.com/2020/10/29/zelenko-and-raoult-fall-in-each-others-arms/

Brian   
February 13, 2021

Beginning early in the pandemic Dr. Brian Tyson saw over 17,000 patients in El Centro near the California border with Mexico, risk stratified 1,900 COVID+ elderly and high-risk patients 11 months old to 90 years old for treatment, with 0 deaths and 1 hospitalization of 4 days.
https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=359.0



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I do appreciate that he still allows me to post.

https://forbetterscience.com/2021/03/16/why-not-chemical-castration-to-escape-covid-19/#comment-118186

 March 16, 2021

Isn’t suggesting a financial incentive behind advancing hydroxychloroquine in early treatment of COVID-19 a bit disingenuous, since the HCQ portion of multi-drug therapies costs about $4.76, for all 14 pills needed over 7 days? Dr. Brian Tyson does a good job of explaining his motivation behind his own use of HCQ, in this video regarding his treatment of 1,700 COVID patients, with 0 deaths and only 1 hospitalization of 4 days:

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response to his latest bit on HCQ
https://forbetterscience.com/2021/03/23/didier-raoult-fraud-je-ne-regrette-rien/#comment-119001

HCQ is a zinc ionophore, just as are quercetin and ECGC. They are all cheap enough to not need to bother going to a garden center. At $.34 per pill HCQ won't likely break most people's bank accounts. Regarding HCQs efficacy I don't likely need to post the video of Dr. Brian Tyson again, who treated 1900 elderly and high-risk patients with HCQ, with 0 deaths and only one hospitalization of 4 days.
You rail against Raoult as if he is the only one who used HCQ when thousands of doctors (tens of thousands?) around the world have treated, I'm going to guess by now millions of patients with it. It has excellent efficacy when administered immediately upon the presentation of symptoms or clinical suspicion of covid-19 (without waiting for the results of a ridiculously inaccurate PCR test). Besides the testimonies of doctors that have been in the trenches, that have been using it since the beginning of the pandemic with near 100% success, studies confirm its efficacy in EARLY outpatient treatment:

There are 219 trials listed at this site. Any done on HCQ outside of the outpatient setting are largely irrelevant, unless it was administered immediately upon admittance to the hospital of subjects with mild to moderate symptoms.
https://c19study.com/#early

Countries that treated early with HCQ have a 75% lower death rate than countries that have limited or late use.
https://hcqtrial.com/

However Ivermectin seems to hold more promise since it is more effective throughout all stages of the disease than HCQ.
https://c19ivermectin.com/

The NIH's answer to treatment a year into the "pandemic"? Do nothing until you turn blue and have to go on oxygen and languish in the hospital until you drown in your own body fluids with an IV of Remdesivir stuck in your arm.
https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=390.0

But then the illness industry in the U.S. does profit to the tune of an average of $73,300 per COVID patient, so it's no wonder Fauci's advice is to "go home and isolate", until a person has to be hospitalized. Half a million Americans and millions of people around the world died completely unnecessary and horrific deaths, almost all of whom could have been saved with early treatment. Indeed a person would be hard pressed to bring me a single example of a person that was treated within the first few days of symptoms with the increasingly popular protocols, that didn't make a full recover. And the misery I mentioned includes some long haulers that will perhaps have a lifetime of discomfort and doctor visits.

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I posted:

https://forbetterscience.com/2020/12/15/ivermectin-now-against-covid-19-why/#comment-112844

February 1, 2021

Could you please post links to articles you have included on sound recommendations by yourself or others for early, or later phase, treatment for the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Here’s how mass distribution of ivermectin worked in Peru.



https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=461.0

Perhaps there are other metrics you prefer to judge by other than success.

https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=359.0

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A week later I posted:
https://forbetterscience.com/2020/12/15/ivermectin-now-against-covid-19-why/#comment-113635

 February 8, 2021

FLCCC is a group of doctors/scientists that between them have published nearly 2,000 peer reviewed papers, including Dr. Pierre Kory that you impugned earlier, who is a board-certified ICU pulmonary care specialist. Third and second world countries like Peru, are dragging so-called “developed” western countries, kicking and screaming out of this plandemic (where hospitals have assumed the role of “houses of death” as they used to call hospitals in third world countries).
https://www.covidtreatmentoptions.com/#ivermectin

Watch this before it is censored by Google/YouTube:

But of course when someone posts a response that soundly exposes Leonid Schneider's buffoonery, he erases it. There don't seem to be any trace of the posts left.
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On feb 13 I posted:


Brian   
February 13, 2021

Beginning early in the pandemic Dr. Brian Tyson saw over 17,000 patients in El Centro near the California border with Mexico, risk stratified 1,900 COVID+ elderly and high-risk patients 11 months old to 90 years old for treatment, with 0 deaths and 1 hospitalization of 4 days.
https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=359.0



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https://forbetterscience.com/2020/10/29/zelenko-and-raoult-fall-in-each-others-arms/#comment-123236
"I have no way of checking the vaccine efficiency (and they might indeed not work as promised), but at least they proved safe and were approved by EMA..."
This is false because the "vaccines" named will not be proven safe until 2-5 years down the road. I don't know what's up with the EMA, but this is how the FDA puts it: ""8.4.Unknown Risks/Data Gaps"
"Vaccine-enhanced disease Available data do not indicate a risk of vaccine-enhanced disease, and conversely suggest effectiveness against severe disease within the available follow-up period. However, risk of vaccine-enhanced disease over time, potentially associated with waning immunity, remains unknown and needs to be evaluated further in ongoing clinical trials and in observational studies that could be conducted following authorization and/or licensure."
https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=634.0
So good luck with your pathogenic priming/enhanced immune response/antibody dependent enhancement.
https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=719.0
All because you chose to live in fear, while continuing to disbelieve THE REALITY of the up to 99-100% effectiveness of multi-drug/supplement early treatment protocols for COVID-19, that have been demonstrated to have been that effective ever since March of 2020.
https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?board=3.0

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https://forbetterscience.com/2021/05/05/stefano-mancusos-brilliant-green-and-plant-revolution-review-of-two-books/#comment-123325

Good morning Mr. Schneider. Wouldn’t the desalinator, solar panels and batteries would work at the water’s edge, without having to waste the trees, plastic drums, fasteners, while using off-the-shelf glass in conventional greenhouse, while avoiding all the maintenance?
Plus I just noticed that they build almost as much square footage for rafts, to hook the units together, as they do the units themselves. Lots of maintenance, wood preserving chemicals, etc. etc.
https://www.intelligentliving.co/the-jellyfish-barge-modular-floating-greenhouse/
Would be interested in a figure for the growing area square inches per square foot of floor space.

And regarding HCQ and ivermectin we are over a year down the road now, and there is never any shame in one admitting one was wrong, as matters continue to develop. Particularly now that we have physicians like Dr. Brian Tyson who’s team has successfully treated over 5,000 elderly and high-risk patients with (at least in the first 1900, zero deaths and only one hospitalization of 4 days). Or Zev Zelenko who you like to demonize who’s first 800 elderly and high risk patients only had 2 deaths – one that had advanced leukemia and the other that showed up way too late for treatment. The same success has been experienced by hundreds or perhaps thousands of doctors in the U.S. and tens of thousands around the world. Let alone the plethora of studies, 100% of which for ivermectin show positive results in all stages of the disease, with the same kind of percentage for HCQ in early outpatient treatment. Meanwhile we’ve got over a half a million Americans that died horrific deaths, the only reason of which was being guided by Fauci’s “go home and isolate” until you get sick enough to be hospitalized. Good business for the illness industry at $73,300 per average COVID hospital stay here in the U.S., as well as big profits for Big Pharma still able to peddle less effective Remdesivir.

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https://forbetterscience.com/2021/06/10/dirty-old-man-harasses-elisabeth-bik/#comment-130370

June 10, 2021

Hydroxychloroquine isn’t about Didier Raoult (though he was an early pioneer in treating with it). Followed by heroes like Dr. Brian Tyson, whose team by last summer had treated 1,700 elderly and high-risk individuals with 0 deaths and only one hospitalization of 4 days:
https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=359.0
His team has since treated over 5,000 COVID patients.
And then there are the “305 studies, 224 peer reviewed, 255 comparing treatment and control groups.”
https://c19hcq.com/
But perhaps that’s insufficient for some.

https://forbetterscience.com/2021/06/10/dirty-old-man-harasses-elisabeth-bik/#comment-131749

Smut Clyde
June 13, 2021

A bunch of astroturfed websites full of cherrypicked garbage are indeed insufficient.

 June 21, 2021

That’s your take on 97 studies on ivermectin, 59 peer reviewed, 60 with results comparing treatment and control groups https://c19ivermectin.com/
Or your take on the 308 studies on hydroxychloroquine, 227 peer reviewed, 258 comparing treatment and control groups with 100% of the 29 early treatment studies reporting a positive effect?
https://c19hcq.com/#early
But perhaps you pride yourself in following the “science”, of fraudulent, disgraced and withdrawn studies like the one that suggested that hydroxychloroquine – that is taken by millions of Americans every day of the year for lupus and rheumatoid arthritis in the same dosage that the Zelenko protocol prescribes over just 7 days – is harmful? Let alone even safer and more effective ivermectin?
https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=23.0
https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=363.0
Or perhaps there’s another explanation for your knee-jerk response:
https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=391.0

https://forbetterscience.com/2021/06/10/dirty-old-man-harasses-elisabeth-bik/#comment-131755
PS:  I recently learned that those 5,000 elderly and high-risk patients that Dr. Brian Tyson and his team early-treated, met with just 2 deaths and 4 hospitalizations. Eventually anecdotal success becomes data (which Tyson preserved from the beginning of the outbreak).
https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=359.0
https://www.bitchute.com/video/UlBTwb8tvdae/
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https://forbetterscience.com/2021/10/18/ivermectin-now-against-covid-19-because/#comment-180313
October 26, 2021

A door-to-door test-and-treat program utilizing an ivermectin+zinc+doxycycline+nutraceuticals protocol, eliminated COVID-19 among the (5% vaxxed) 230 million residents of Uttar Pradesh India, while COVID continued to rage and deaths continued to mount in their (20% vaxxed) neighboring State of Kerala with 35 million residents. On August 25th Kerala reported 215 deaths, while Uttar Pradesh reported just 2 deaths on the same day, even though it has more than 6.5 times as many residents.
https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=1068.0
Hydroxychloroquine is still working as well as it did when Dr. Zev Zelenko reported in his letter of March 23, 2020 that he had early-treated 500 elderly and high-risk patients with 0 deaths and 0 hospitalizations.
https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=1007.0
Continued working so well that by last fall Dr. Brian Tyson and his team had treated over 1,900 elderly and high-risk COVID patients with 0 deaths and 1 hospitalization of 4 days. In the latest news he and his team have treated over 6,000 COVID patients with 0 deaths among those that started treatment within the first 7 days of symptoms, and only 4 deaths among those that were symptomatic for 7-14 days.


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Leonid Schneider   
October 27, 2021

You are wrong. the real COVID-19 cure is Oleandrin, and your Big Pharma shills from covid19forum deny people the real and cheap cure.
I did my research, and the peer reviewed science is on my side
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0753332221002420?via%3Dihub
This Elsevier journal has an impact factor of 6.5 and the scientists are from University of Texas and MD Anderson, top research institutions!
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https://forbetterscience.com/2021/10/18/ivermectin-now-against-covid-19-because/#comment-180629

Why would there be a need for anything else when we already have a couple 35 and 65-year proven safe drugs, that are essentially 100% effective in early treatment of elderly and high-risk individuals in combination with other drugs and nutraceuticals, that are so cheap and available everyone can have them at-the-ready their medicine cabinet? Both of which should be available over-the-counter as they are in many countries.

Where are the “trials” or “studies” that include HCQ+zinc+azithromycin or IVM+zinc+doxycycline administered along with vitamin D, C, quercetin, melatonin and more as successful physicians have employed since spring of 2020?
https://vladimirzelenkomd.com/treatment-protocol/
https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Alliance-I-MASKplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdf

One massive example of near perfect success included 230 million people, that became COVID free in a matter of weeks, with an ivermectin protocol.
https://www.who.int/india/news/feature-stories/detail/uttar-pradesh-going-the-last-mile-to-stop-covid-19

Let alone all of the positive evidence that we do have in 126 studies, 82 peer reviewed, 64 with results comparing treatment and control groups for ivermectin, in spite of being heavily compromised by only including the drug alone or with an antibiotic, only a few of which even included zinc. You can wish it weren’t true but that doesn’t change the facts.
https://c19ivermectin.com/
While there are 32 hydroxychloroquine early treatment studies (also compromised by not including other protocol components) yet all but one of which show very good efficacy:
https://c19hcq.com/#early
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Leonid Schneider
https://forbetterscience.com/2021/10/18/ivermectin-now-against-covid-19-because/#comment-180650

Be quiet you shill! Dr Cadegiani tested all your combos, and it turned out proxalutamide is superior. But even Cadegiani didn’t test oleandrin, which is the only drug which fully works, but is suppressed because Big Pharma refuses to sell it.
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https://forbetterscience.com/2021/10/18/ivermectin-now-against-covid-19-because/#comment-180630
October 27, 2021

By the way there is a thread on Oleandrin in the covid19forum. Is it cheaper than $0.80 per dose generic ivermectin?
https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=704.0
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Leonid Schneider   
October 27, 2021

You need much less of it.
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To which I replied
https://forbetterscience.com/2021/10/18/ivermectin-now-against-covid-19-because/#comment-180641

October 27, 2021

Did you miss my reply that included the HCQ and IVM trials and studies?
HCQ 360 studies, 263 peer reviewed, 294 comparing treatment and control groups.
https://c19study.com/#early
IVM 126 studies, 82 peer reviewed, 64 with results comparing treatment and control groups.
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Leonid Schneider   
October 27, 2021

See how much Big Pharma invests into HCQ and IVM research? Who pays all these studies, I hope it’s still allowed to ask???
Meanwhile, oleandrin research is being suppressed, because the drug works! 100%. But the lying media keeps touting IVM and HCQ because the Big Pharma sells these drugs in pharmacies. But go try buying oleandrin, good luck.
https://c19ivermectin.com/
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 October 28, 2021
https://forbetterscience.com/2021/10/18/ivermectin-now-against-covid-19-because/#comment-181175

Whoops initially posted this in the wrong spot.
At $168/KG, or a box of 100 12mg pills for as low as $2.19 (41:15 mark in this video: youtube.com/watch?v=vYF8bnmdQfY)
I’m guessing IVM isn’t one of Big Pharma’s big money-makers.